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H.R. 822, The National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity
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Re: H.R. 822, The National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity 1 year, 8 months ago #5728

That guy is Paranoid, I'm pretty sure my state issues my drivers lic just like my CCW , but on constitutional carry for those states they would have to start a lic program so they can carry in other states(not to big a deal). I do hope that they don't go putting military members with PTSD on some list cause i will sue sue sue the F out of someone

Re: H.R. 822, The National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity 1 year, 7 months ago #6532


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The House Judiciary Committee on Tuesday approved a gun rights bill that could be headed to the floor by the end of 2011.

House panel clears conceal-and-carry gun bill, with one Republican defection.

The legislation, which would allow for conceal-and-carry weapon reciprocity across states lines, cleared the panel on a 19-11 vote.


All but one committee Republican, Rep. Dan Lungren (Calif.), supported the National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act, which is sponsored by Rep. Cliff Stearns (R-Fla.); Democrats united in opposition to the bill. Lungren and other Republicans have raised concerns about the legislation’s effect on the rights of states.
GOP leadership sources told The Hill that the bipartisan measure, with 245 co-sponsors, will likely come up for a vote on the floor before year’s end.

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Re: H.R. 822, The National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity 1 year, 7 months ago #6534

saltywardog wrote:
That guy is Paranoid, I'm pretty sure my state issues my drivers lic just like my CCW , but on constitutional carry for those states they would have to start a lic program so they can carry in other states(not to big a deal). I do hope that they don't go putting military members with PTSD on some list cause i will sue sue sue the F out of someone


Yes, his name is Dudley Brown and he wrote that email on behalf of the National Association of Gun Rights.

I wouldn't MIND his paranoia so much except for the fact that he's spreading all this FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt) with the SOLE PURPOSE of soliciting contributions to the NAGR. That kind of horse manure really pisses me off.

It's one thing to voice concerns that MIGHT be a little over the top but to do it in order to drive up contributions to his PAC is just SLIMY.

I have read that the NRA and the Texas State Rifle Association are both supporting HR822. I asked Grass Roots North Carolina about it and they are holding their breath, waiting to see how it shakes out and if any extra provisions are added in to the bill, but they support it as it is currently written.
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Re: H.R. 822, The National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity 1 year, 6 months ago #6551

So your widely acceptable CCW in one state will be subject to the restrictions of the state you are in

How does that help the FL person going to NE for the leaf peeping? based on current regs, you won't be able to carry much while in some of those states as they have severely restricted issuance and usage
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Re: H.R. 822, The National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity 1 year, 6 months ago #6589


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H.R. 822 -- National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act -- Heading to House Floor; Contact your Representative Now!

As we've been reporting week in and week out, H.R. 822 -- the "National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act of 2011" is very good legislation for gun owners. The time is past due to dispel the alarmist rhetoric about the bill, and to set the record straight.

Most of the misguided, unfounded, and incorrect characterizations circulating lately regarding H.R. 822 have come from the anti-gun groups and media. However, a small number of vocal and supposedly "pro-gun" groups continue to report falsehoods, despite clear evidence to refute their assertions. Though they claim to be on the side of America's gun owners and the Second Amendment, their stance on this measure proves otherwise.

One group claimed H.R. 822 would include anti-gun amendments that would create "disastrous federally mandated infringements on our rights."

But, as we recently reported, the House Judiciary has already considered amendments to H.R. 822, and all anti-gun amendments offered that would weaken or gut the legislation were defeated.

The same group warns of "a 'study' to control firearm sales over the internet," and decries a "review" process that they claim will provide "a perfect opportunity for more changes." In reality, there was no amendment to study firearm sales over the internet. Period. And the "review" they speak of has nothing to do with adding new anti-gun provisions. The amendment referred to only requires a study of the law's effects, and that study would take place after the law is in effect.

Another group is trying to insinuate that anti-gunners in Congress will support the bill in order to limit our gun rights. In evaluating this ludicrous accusation, please consider that H.R. 822 has not just 245 cosponsors, but 245 pro-gun cosponsors. And -- just as telling -- none of the stalwart anti-gun representatives have signed on. In addition, well known anti-gun groups, including the Brady Campaign and Mayors Against Illegal Guns, have made killing H.R. 822 their top legislative priority. There is no hidden anti-gun counter-plot going on here.

Opponents of the legislation also claim that it tramples on each "states' rights." But states don't have rights, only powers. And while many anti-gun lawmakers who've long pushed national gun bans, national bans on private gun sales, national waiting periods and other federal restrictions have suddenly become born-again advocates of "states' rights" to oppose this bill, several provisions of the Constitution give Congress the authority to enact interstate carry. Congress also has the power to protect the rights of citizens, nationwide, under the 14th Amendment (please see related article from a recent Grassroots Alert).

Again, and for the record:

H.R. 822 is a GOOD bill and is GOOD for gun owners. The bill ENHANCES Americans' right to self-defense by enabling millions of permit holders to exercise their right to self-defense while traveling outside their home states.

There is currently only one remaining state (Illinois) that has no clear legal way for individuals to carry concealed firearms for self-defense outside the home. H.R. 822 would require states to recognize each others' lawfully-issued carry permits, just as they recognize driver's licenses and carry permits held by armored car guards.

H.R. 822 DOES NOT:

Create a federal licensing or registration system;
Establish a minimum federal standard for the carry permit;
Involve the federal bureaucracy in setting standards for carry permit;
Destroy permitless carry systems such as those in Arizona, Alaska, Vermont and Wyoming.
H.R. 822 is headed to the House floor. Please IMMEDIATELY contact your member of Congress and urge him or her to support the earliest possible consideration of H.R. 822.

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Re: H.R. 822, The National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity 1 year, 6 months ago #6592

Thought this was pretty good.

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